Keeping the o-ring lubed will help, and if it seems distended (stretched), if it doesnt fit tightly, you can shave off a 1/4 or so, by cutting cleanly with a razor knife and super-gluing the ends together. On the lower half of the filter housing, we've got a hairline crack. Thanks. The black band moves then stops as if is locks both clockwise and counter clockwise. Turn off the filter. These are old style laterals which are glued in. I opened up the pump, took out the filters and cleaned them, put them back. the condensation will not form, but escape. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Hi Bob, sometimes it is just a twig or sand stuck between the gasket and diverter, and pushing down on the handle with the pump off will usually wash it clean. I have a Hayward C4030 cartridge Filter. Company will replace the filter under warranty but it does not cover labor. I have replaced the Multiport valve (that has a spider gasket already on it) and replaced the broken handle. When the Kreepy is connected, the psi going to zero is due to the vacuum pressure, which could also damage the grids, or collapse them in the way you describe. as you would think. I also am not sure about that o-ring, normally I would think it would go inside of the union to seal the end of the elbow, but I cannot find a good picture to see if there is a groove on the tip of the elbow (the short end). Or, #2, was the key assembly (handle, lid, rotor) removed from the valve body, and then replaced in an incorrect position? Hayward Spa Blowers offer easy installation and quiet performance, providing a relaxing spa experience without excess equipment noise. If that is not working either is there a valve on the backwash line that needs to be opened? maybe about 5 to 10 gallons an hour seeps out of that hairline. Red RTV is for high temp, which is not needed. I am not seeing anything different about the lid, but I do realize it is MUCH easier to take on and off. It shouldn't be a cracked lateral, unless you are seeing sand in the pool, in addition to dust/silt. Hi, probably ABS glue would be best, or PVC glue either one, as long as it is Fresh, and not old. Im not sure of the diameter on the standpipe, but I have repaired some in the past with regular PVC pipe, and a coupling or you could replace the standpipe and lateral assembly SX164DA ugh too expensive, I think you can make a repair with pvc glue and a coupling or something, I vacuumed on backwash now I get short Cycles. If it still leaks, replace the o-ring. We have a Haywood Vari-flo x1 valve. Just be sure its fresh glue, and priming the pieces first with PVC primer/cleaner is also recommended to soften and heat up the two pieces, for a hotter glue joint, where they meld/fuse together more solidly. (Assuming this is a Hayward Perflex DE filter). There is a diffuser or impeller shroud, which usually has a gasket or o-ring, they must both be in place properly for good flow but if you have not had it apart recently, then unlikely to fail. Or you can just buy the entire lid/cover/handle/rotor assembly, known as the Key assembly. Quickly remove pipe or gauge; allow glue or epoxy to set up. Or would an epoxy resin patch be better. I have a Hayward variflo xl valve on my sand filter. The reason is simple: TFPC (Trouble Free Pool Care) is a methodology, not a product that you must purchase. You probably made sure the o-ring was not pinched, and all the nuts are super tight, and there is no grit or de powder in the groove, and you spread some lube on the o-ring before reassembly? If the valve was recently removed or replaced, are the plumbing pipes correct? For sand filters or older stainless steel tanks, its not cheaper to buy an entire new filter, but depending on the age, filter tanks or tank halves can cost 50-80 percent of the cost of a new filter. Any suggestions? Does this seem like a gasket issue or a air release valve issue? I knew a guy who almost never backwashed, he just bumped his filter weekly, and backwashed once or twice per season, with a complete disassemble and cleaning at seasons end. If the drain assembly is removable from the tank, you can replace that part. Also check that the filter valve was plumbed correctly, with the pipe from the pump connecting into the PUMP port, and the return pipe connected into the RETURN port. When DE powder leaks into the Pool from a Hayward Perflex filter and its not the flex tubes, it is usually missing bump shaft o-rings or loose tube sheet bolts. When put water back in pool and fired up filter, its leaking from all around the top crown part of the filter near the handle. Be sure the water level in the pool is mid-tile also. Hi I would appreciate some help. Make sure the cap is not cracked. Everything is working fine and no leaks. Hi Mr. Merino, The head on my regent 450 will not screw on to the locked position with out using a block of wood and hammer. As for the filter, if the water looks good usually, with few bouts of cloudy water or algae, blue and clear, then the filter could be said to be operating effectively (given a proper amount of daily run time). Have you backwashed the filter yet how does that do? Another possible cause is a new pump that is larger than the old pump, forcing the water right thru the sand without filtering. The water is not staying in the filter bucket. There is a hairline crack down the seam which causes it to leak. There is no way to repair it successfully, and Ive tried, too. To remove it, try a dull chisel and hammer, or make a large strap wrench, or get some help from some strong person with big hands. If you have heaters, chlorinators, salt cells, sensors, valves or check valves after the filter, these all could be clogged or potentially be causing the back-pressure. SPONSORED. Use thread sealant on the bulkhead threads, and be sure to keep all sand out of the way, just a few grains of sand could cause a leak. "@type": "ImageObject", Sometimes a water hammer effect, like suddenly closing a return side valve, or turning the multiport valve while the filter is running, or starting up with plugs in the pool wall. Thanks. When DE powder leaks into the Pool from a Hayward Perflex filter: We did everything with new sand and all backwash, rinse and so on and sand is still shooting into the pool. I have a Hayward Pro Series above ground sand filter. By removing all the filters from the housing, you can begin to plan out how to proceed. i have hayward sand filter 200lb. "@context": "https://schema.org/", My question is how much water am I losing from this. You can make a gasket in a pinch with a cereal box or some sheet rubber, but its best to use the real thing if you can. What Happens When Hayward Pool Filter Is Leaking A pool filter is like the kidney of your pool. That should hold it if not, I suspect damage to the bottom threads in the tank body, which means, a new filter probably. Pool company says it might have to drill a hole where leak is and put in a screw. I replaced everything internal to sand filter 2 years ago. Lube may be needed to help the lid seat correctly, or o-ring(s) may need replacement. Hi Sherrie, good question. However, its very hard to check under the filter, unless you empty the sand and turn it over gently. purchased and replaced a new multiport valve. . I dont see any water coming from the adapter to tank connection but water is dripping from the gauge to the adapter.I have installed and reinstalled 3 times with the same result.I tried Teflon tape ,magic lube and a combination of both.still leaking.What am I doing wrong? Hayward Floating Cable RCX361191. Any ideas what could be causing this and what I should do to correct. Open up the tank and pull out the filter nest assy, hose it off clean. After reading Davy Merino blog for a similar problem ; I did the deed and disassembled filter and cleaned all the flex tubes and entire inside of filter; as well as pump skimmer basket. I read it takes two turns once the coils of the spring touch each other. If you use gravel and sand do you put the gravel in the bottom and the sand on top of the gravel? Davegreat website. Hayward Filter Cartridge Element (CX2020RE) for StarClear Plus Filters (C2002) Mine always pinches or bunches up and it never seats just right. . when i vacuum i get dirty water back in the return stream almost immediately. Is there a nut on the inside? I have a hayward micro star lear 225 filter and i purchared a new elbow and it came with a small o ring and I dont know where it should go. Ft Filter Area Inground Pool Filter,Above Ground Swimming Pool Cartridge Filter System w/Polyester Cartridge,Corrosion-proof,Auto Pressure Relieve,2 Unions Included 98 2 offers from $269.99 "@type": "ImageObject", O-429 is the generic replacement. The most common place is around the pump lid, or from the threaded fitting coming into the pump. "width": "611", Hi Ken, could be a clogged pump impeller, or a clogged filter. Hi, a small amount of sand coming into the pool after a sand change, or a new filter is not unusual, especially right after start-up or backwashing. My old filter and pump have been moved from my basement to outside, I noticed that one of the bolts around the filter was put in upside down and its leaking, is this bolt position a mistake . If leaking around the pipes, replace them in five steps. I only connected everything only today and I cleaned it before putting it away last year. Like filter grids, these deteriorate over time. My filter pressures have been over 30 pounds consistently. filter is 9 yrs. Hi, 100 in-lbs means the torque that should be applied to the clamp band, using a torque wrench, which no one has but 100 lbs is quite tight! The 2 hp pump is likely pushing more water than that, probably over 50 gpm you can estimate the pump flow rate, by looking at the pump Flow Curves on the pump spec pages, for your particular make/model and hp. I probably could've lived with purchasing the $5 amount in the syringe, but what the heck, it was a lot cheaper than $600 or $700. Maybe thats your leak? }, Dry-rotted o-rings or distended (enlarged) o-rings will also give leaking problems, requiring o-ring replacement. Cap the standpipe and pour the sand back in, or use new sand. Yes, turn off the power, and check tightness on all bolts. Moved to a new place a few month ago, have in-ground pool w/ a caretaker infloor system, built in spa, and heater. Help! Remove the top of the multiport valve and inspect the spiderweb style gasket. If you have an in-ground pool and can invest in a cartridge filter, this streamline option from Hayward is your best bet. He noticed that all of my DE cartridges were broken including the big plastic parts. Filters. replace the parts 17 and 23 or should I take epoxy and weld that elbow to the internal wall of the housing? Hi Cheri, possibly the filter is plumbed backwards. powder into the skimmer (basket out) The leak can also be from the clamp band around the middle or from the air bleeder assy on top of the filter and dripping down off the bottom. I have set the port to waste, and backwash with no help. In this case, if the base of the filter has stripped, you would need a new filter. The EC-65 and EC-75 Perflex filters use a backmount pressure gauge, which fits into the larger round inspection port adapter. Hi Jack, for the bump handle, I would suspect that either a an E-Clip or O-Ring on the bump shaft has become dislodged. "@type": "Person", It's a hair line crack about 3 inches long. "contentUrl": "https://x1.adis.ws/v1/media/graphics/i/lesl/its-logo-wide", Could this be caused by adding too much DE? getting de in pool this year. Although, when placed on the waste setting, water goes through the waste line fine. Thank you in advance for your assistance! have a Hayward regenx grid element de filter system (rg70075xeh). Hi Janet, at that rate of water loss, it is most likely not the filter. Also make sure to lube the o-ring with a pool lube (Teflon based), and when tightening the clamp, tap it a few times around the edge with a hammer, and then tighten some more. I have water coming out of my waste when in the filter mode. I also noticed in some of the above questions you mentioned a DE cleaner! The stripped threads in the base of a Hayward Starclear pool filter can be fixed with a Helicoil, part 5521-9. sanitization advanced all-in-one aop. I followed the instructions . Leaking Pipe Connections: If your filter is leaking where the pipes come in and out, inspect for cracks around where the pipes screw in. Hayward cartridge pool filters are designed to run at lower pressure than sand which puts less backpressure on the pump, providing more flow and turnover. "logo": { Hayward offers a full line of multiport and slide backwash valves to support our complete line of vertical grid DE and sand filters. Normal pressure, or same as last year? Another more rare possibility is that your suction pipes could be clogged or crimping under vacuum. Did you disassemble the valve at all (remove the lid or key assy) before installation, and maybe reattached it in a different orientation? Go to our filter parts department, and find your filter make/model, and look at the schematic, and you can find the part number, and see prices, and buy what you need https://www.intheswim.com/c/filter-parts?pcode=208&scode=SOCIBLOG. Pool White Goods . This would require a complete tear down to fix, but may be necessary. i had hayward for years that had numerous screws, this on does not and i cant get it to stop leakinf d We took everything apart and see No broken laterals but the stem pipe has a small crack in it would that make for sand to go into the pool? And finally, is the pump pipe attached to the mpv port labeled PUMP and the return hose attached to the port labeled RETURN? Thread pipe or gauge into hole to expand crack to its widest. What might be happening here? Im ready to blow a hole in the side of the pool. Im trying to start up the pool and it looks like stuff is going back into the pool but it might be air. 2. I tried using loc-tite but it didnt work. When we attempted to reassemble plate assembly to lid and bump handle it is not lining up correctly. Reassemble by replacing key assembly in the proper orientation. Thank you. However, it could be fail dangerously, and Hayward would recommend replacing the tank, which are not usually repairable permanently. A steady drip of one drop per second could be about 4-6 gallons per day, a gallon being roughly 15000 drops. Would like to know if this is a simple fix or not. }, Wont be pretty, but might add some strength and prevent a complete failure or maybe not If it does fail, buy the whole filter new, buying just the tank alone usually costs more. Bill. Drain tank and remove sand, as described above. If they are not leaking now, just hairline cracks, you could try a fiberglass repair kit, which includes mesh fiberglass and epoxy resin. I replaced the o-ring (lubed new one with Jacks) last night. If not those things, Im stumped! It sides on a cement base at when turned on it leaks. Is something clogging the waste port, inside the multiport valve? Squirt expanded crack full of Super Glue or liquid epoxy. Do this - Hi Christina, might not be the correct type of (water) pressure gauge? Was that my problem or should I look for something else. Refilled with 4lbs of DE per owners manual ; still have the exact same problem with high pre coat pressure and getting only 15-20 minutes flow. Valve works good on all settings except backwash and rinse. Pressure gage was leaking and not moving past zero replaced it today now there is water that has filled the gage and is spraying out of the face of it. We have also replaced the O ring on the skimmer basket on the pump. If the answer to all these questions is yes, refer topool filter problem#1 above. I have tightened the screws as tight as it can go without feeling it will break. . Pressure gauge would not be the issue, but laterals, hub or standpipe. If the air release valve is open, this doesnt happen. I will pick up some lube when I buy a new gasket tomorrow. About $35 on eBay. Hi Margie, 3 things come to mind 1. maybe not. The pool pump pulls water into the pump basket and pumps water through the pools filter and back to the pool through a return line. As you mention, a screw with a large rubber gasket, and threads sharp and large enough to bite into the tank, sealed with an epoxy resin at the time of screwing it in, might be the best bet. If the gasket seems loose or is still bunching up, it may be distended, or stretched out, and needs replacement. Air in the system is definitely coming from BEFORE the impeller. Thank You! Hello sir, I have another question about my ec65 DE Hayward filter. Dumb question, but gotta ask. I had a clip and plate break today on Hayward de filter with fingers. Hi, I have a Hayward sand filter that has a small crack right around the mouth of the tank. Filter tank bulkheads can also leak, where the water goes in and out of the tank, there are gaskets or o-rings on all of these, drain, clamp, bleeder, bulkhead so depending on what part of the filter is leaking, you can buy the correct o-ring and install with Teflon (pool) lube, as the usual fix for a leaking filter. Something that is spraying or running however, can be considerably more. If you find yourself having to backwash yourfilter every week, you probably need to replace the filter media, assuming that your filteris properly sized. Ugh. The results will be visible soon after you open the filters. The valve that carries the backwash from filter leaks and I cant stop it. Good luck, you should be able to slow the water flow enough to run the filter for a few weeks hopefully, while you get a new tank on order, although usually the entire filter is less costly than buying the tank alone. Pool is so dirty Im having trouble distinguishing between the two. 3. My husband tried to put a sealant on it, inside and out, and it held for a short period of time and now its gushing water out again. Then used a platic-use 2 part epoxy to seal it. Cleaned the fingers with a concentrated spray hose nossel Re-assembled the filter body, torqued down all bolts in a star pattern, then went back around and re-torqued them all. In such case, remove all 6 screws around the lid and remove the key assembly by lifting the handle (you may need to pry slightly with a flat head screwdriver to separate the lid from the body). On some filter drains, you may be able to fit a small expansion plug, like a #2 or #4 winterizing plug, to seal it up but, it could blow out when the filter gets dirty. Hi, we have a 24 foot above ground pool. When In filter mode, the water going into the pool is dirty, and also still coming out of the waste. Keep this o-ring lubricated and use some Teflon tape on the threads. This could cause your filter to increase its pressure needlessly. Does the o-ring where the drain tube screws in ever leak, or is it more likely the housing is cracked. Ihave a hayward 210t sand filter and I just replaced the sand in it. 1. from around the band.husband has no idea what 100 in-lbs means when tightening, Or just replace the o-ring, if needed. Has the plumbing been connected to the filter correctly? Thank you, Swimming Pool Filter Reviews. Now do I have to put water in the pump tank? Yes, the o-ring would be a prime suspect, on the end of the drain tube. Pressure drops to 2-4 psi without even hooking up vacuum hose. Put 6LBs of D.E. Any leaks when the pump is off? I has the owner of the company come out. Hi Jeff I have tried before, to patch filter tank cracks, and always failed. Replaced the O-ring and lubed it but it still leaks. Wrap threads four times with Teflon; screw hand tight, plus 1-1/4 turn. Open up the valve to inspect it from the inside, just remove all 6 screws and pry up the lid. If the pump does not catch prime and start pumping water within 60 seconds, shut off the pump and lug over a bucket of pool water, or drag over the garden hose, and fill the pump with water, then replace the pump lid (very tightly), and start the pump again. It seems at start up there is too much pressure to hold that major O-ring from leaking. 4. clogged laterals, the slotted pipes in the bottom of the tank, minerals, oil or debris could be clogging the tiny slits Remove the entire filter nest assembly from the tank by removing all the screws around the top (dont lose any!). Original filter lasted 14 years and only replaced it because parts for head were no longer available. Separate the rod again from the lid, and the tank, and inspect the threads, for any damage. It resets the DE cake, resulting in longer filter cycles. So this year I emptied out the filter. I have a Hayward EC 75 de filter . When I run the pool filter, of course it leaks. hi Christine, I understand the problem. fyi replaced pump a few years ago, replaced grid element last season. It developed cracks near the top and water now just pours out like a fountain. learn more. If your sand has developed 'mud-balls' (greasy deposits) or calcified in sections, that could also cause pass-thru problems. Ft. 4.6 out of 5 stars 834 I took the top off to examine the gasket but saw no issues. The pump is a Hayward S1667. "contentUrl": "https://x1.adis.ws/v1/media/graphics/i/lesl/its-logo-wide", Cut pipes with hacksaw, leaving enough pipe to reconnect. Use a straight edge or level across the base of the filter tank, to determine the same thing. I bought this sand filter from in the swim. Ill keep thinking, threads on the filter drain are worn,cap dosent seal tight,water drips ,tried plumbers tape didnt help much.any way to rethread them, Yes, usually Teflon tape is the trick. Any suggestions? Most filters have a small o-ring for that purpose, just inside where the standpipe fits. Then use lock-tite again, or go with a heavy silicone sealant like RTV, plus some Teflon tape, and Lock-Tite (why not? If mineral scale is seen or suspected, follow-up with a soak in 5-gals of warm water with 1 lb of pH decreaser added. Also, I keep my Kreepy Krauley pool vacuum attached at all times. I would try using a Filter Cleaner chemical, and then backwashing for a long time, maybe 15 minutes. My filter needs cleaning or backwashing too often. When tightening the clamp band, it is helpful to tap the band in 2-3 areas around the band, to help seat it fully, and filter clamps do need to be tightened very tightly, until they squeak and creak, and for clamps with a spring, all spring coils should be touching. Or is the leak within the ball joint union? I put in together 10 times now and it is leaking where the top of the elbow connects to the top of the filter. It leaks & I have to continue pulling off & reapplying until it no longer leaks. We have a Hayward sand filter. IT could be too much sand was added. If the threads are molded into the tank, well thats a problem, unless you have a very large and complete tap & die set. Any idea what is causing this? How easy is it to replace the O-ring and replace the bulkhead pipe connection incase it is cracked? if not, then the spider gasket is usually twisted, torn or worn, and needs replacement. Pool Cleaners . Is the pipe that comes into the pump, are the threads wrapped in Teflon tape? what could have happened and how can I fix it ??? It may not display this or other websites correctly. DEfilter grids can last longer, seven-nine years before the fabric breaks down and develops holes. 29 26. Simple hand tools are all thats required to maintain and repair a Hayward pool filter, along with a few Hayward filter parts. I have to inspect the filter myself and fix problems myself. Hi Bob, great question. My trap basket was broken but the pool guy didnt notify me. Greetings, Not sure what type of filter you have. Any other sand would cause problems. "url": "https://intheswim.com/", Hi Davy, I think something is clogged in the multiport valve the dial isnt turning. It works great but recently the bump handle is very hard to operate. A bump is just a short, 15-second backwash, stopped right as you see DE powder starting to exit the filter. Also, weve had a lot of rain but filters seem clean. Cracked Filter Tank:If your filter tank has a pinhole leak or a full-blown crack, the only repair to make it to replace the filter tank. Backwash line leaks when I filter, whats wrong? Is your Summer waves, Bestway, Intex, De, Hayward or Pentair pool filter leaking from bottom? You must log in or register to reply here. I have no idea what else to do. For the sand, try a Sand Filter Cleaner, or pull of the valve and irrigate the sand with a garden hose, pusshing it deep into the sand and letting the tank overflow. any suggestions would be appreciated thank you. Hi Vince, high pressure is usually related to filter problems, but low pressure is typically a pump problem, like a clogged impeller, or an air leak. Some of the links above are affiliate links that help financially support the channel at no cost to you. I used a 1/2 12 point socket and a long extension to turn the tap, since its so far down in the filter base.
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